#thank u apollo

[lisaswallowswhat]

in the club. straight up “waggin it”. and by “it”, haha, well. let’s justr say. My tail.

[cassyapper]

what is qiu’s daily life like while living with the dragons? also i dont know much abt william, im not sure what specifically to ask but pls talk abt him

YAY THANK U FOR ASKING APOLLO <3

okay so qiu's day-to-day life varied as he grew up. for a while he focused solely on learning how to get around with just one leg with the help of the dragon who saved him. the hatchlings of that dragon got kinda jealous about all the attention he was getting so he got mildly hazed but it backfired because they basically dared him to do dangerous magic stunts and qiu was like MAGIC?!?!?! so now he knows magic particularly fire magic. his grasp of it frankly impressed the hatchlings so they adopt him as their sibling

later when he can get around without trouble but decides to stay, he's taught more magic while learning to hunt. dragons aren't beasts in this universe theyre also sentient intelligent beings so they cook food. however qiu is not a gigantic pursuit predator. he is a smaller one (: so he had to learn how he can help with hunting in light of that. he also picks up some craft making particularly leather work. he goes and trades sometimes with villages in order to get materials for it cause the dragons are more culturally focused on writing and such crafts

AS FOR WILLIAM he's jsut a goofy kind mid aged man. he got into the army cause he was convinced it was for a good cause but he does not really have violence in his heart. he's not like childish about it like he gets his ass in gear and it's why he's a battalion leader but he's more focused on assisting his soldiers on their missions than wiping out the enemy. focuses a lot on make them retreat strats than decimation strats and it is why he doesn't have a higher rank despite being in the military for 20 years. has never actually killed someone that he knows of (as in if they did die from his strike, they did so hours later and not in front of his eyes). at this point he's used as a sort of transition from squires to the actual battlefield so he sees a lot of soldiers come and go as they get promoted to different battalions. he doesnt mind though. but it does mean he gets really attached to those who stay such as ai, even if she's prickly

[spoopup]

dont cry. klapollo littlest pet shop. ok?

[brutalitybunny]

I love the fan theory that Datz was the one to name Apollo — that neither he or Dhurke knew what Jove’s baby’s name had been so Dhurke left it up to Datz to do so, and Datz named him after his favourite food — Apple. To say that Apollo’s real name is Apple Justice, and Apollo was an Anglicisation/mispronounciation from how Little Apple said it on eventually moving to Japanifornia. Fitting with Datz only calling him AJ, plus it is exactly the kind of thing one could see him doing.

ITS SUCHHHHH A CUTE HEADCANON LOL the image of like, 5-6 yr old apollo insisting to a visiting rebel that his name is APPLE JUSTICE !! and they look at dhurke like, sorry what, assuming his baby mouth isn't good at saying whatever his name is. and he just shrugs. like you heard the kid. his name is apple justice.

and imagining thalassa who finds out abt all this she's like ... well thank you for taking care of my son but why is. Why did you name him that ..,

[runby2]

The Gavins are so very meticulous when it comes to their appearances right? I think this is doubly so when it comes to their hair, if their hair styles are fucked then something is very wrong. Like Klav gets splashed by a car or smth and he breaks tf down. Kristoph refuses to be seen on a bad hair day.

ITS A TYPETWO

[brodorokihousuke]

Discussing the Courtroom No. 4 bombing incident with someone and the question of, "Who's Apollo's emergency contact?" came up.

First thought was Phoenix, of course. Current father-adjacent figure. But, he's also his boss, and their relationship during the still-recent AJAA was sort of nebulous (meaning Apollo likely wasn't rushing to put him as his contact.)

So, who else. Well, we have Clay, and he looked up to/was generally connected to Starbuck. Both make a fair amount of sense! But, at the time of the bombing, one is dead and the other is arrested. So, that'd be a miserable situation.

My favorite idea that came out of this, though, was having Kristoph as his contact. Maybe Apollo had him as it before the guy was arrested and everything, and just sort of forgot to change it. The hospital tries to call the guy, but he's in jail/dead... so they move on to his closest relative. Being Klavier.

[emimii]

ace attorney apollo justice save me……

[n0ahs-ark]

woah, your art is rlly pretty !! looks like a calming tea and vitamin gummies at the same time… have you ever drawn apollo, hermes, and dionysus in one scene?

i present to you

[thepoggersdilemma]

he eat

he just eats stuff some times.... its not his fault ...

[moonsick-lovelight]

me praying to Apollo bc i have the slightest fever ever

[aeithalian]

On Apollo and fatal flaws

Vague question for my fellow apollogists out there: what do we think Apollo's fatal flaw is? I write this realizing that, in all five books of the series, all told from Apollo's point of view, we never actually have it explicitly stated, either from Apollo's knowledge and refusal to share (which, strangely, seems to me like something he would tell us), or from him not actually knowing, either.

Simply stated, a fatal flaw is any kind of weakness of a hero, god or mortal, that can be exploited and can cause the downfall of that character. That being said, we already know some that generally scope out the larger range of what they can be:

Percy: excessive personal loyalty

Annabeth: hubris/pride

Nico: holding grudges

Thalia: ambition

Leo: feeling inferior

Piper: low self-esteem

Luke: wrath

Jason: hesitation and excessive deliberation

And we are certain that immortals have flaws like these, too. Although it isn't explicitly stated in canon what Zeus' fatal flaw is, it's exceedingly obvious that it's paranoia and hunger for power, as well as his sexual infidelity.

I feel like we can easily knock some flaws off the list already:

Holding grudges is off the list for the main reason that, if there's one thing Apollo oozes, it's forgiveness, and the fact that he is always ready to give second chances to people who have wronged him and the world (Lityerses, Luguselwa, Meg, etc.)

For the same reason, I'm going to knock off wrath. Yes, he has moments of rage, but so does everybody else! It's human nature, and, as stated before, it's usually overshadowed by Apollo's choice to let go of that anger and choose forgiveness instead.

Ambition is an interesting one, but it's not at all something that really comes up in the series to the point where it ends up being powerful enough to be his fatal flaw. He rarely seeks power he didn't already have before, especially when you consider he is Zeus' most powerful son, and one of the most powerful gods period. Why would he need more power? Unless, of course, you choose to point out that one time he tried to overthrow Zeus, but I'd argue he was acting more out of a place of 'hey please be better at your job' than 'I want your title and position', which actually falls more under Poseidon's motivations in that myth.

Interestingly, there's a certain aspect of Apollo's character in the myths that totally screws the pooch in terms of this discussion, and that's the fact that Apollo, throughout the stories of Ancient Greece, is a typical example of perfection. Literally, he's written to be virtually flawless, the paragon of young men, and (in the context of Ancient Greek culture) doesn't have many moments of rage, selfishness, or paranoia, or at least, not as many as other gods (looking at you, Artemis).

HOWEVER, as much as the myths seemingly act like he doesn't have a glaringly obvious flaw, we as a part of Apollo's inner circle/audience know he's got one - I mean, look at him! It's in there somewhere, nobody's perfect, and I don't think anybody's pretending as such for Apollo. What irks me is that we know Apollo is not lacking in general character flaws, but there is one, beyond a doubt, that shapes his inner core irreversibly. And we don't know it.

Thankfully, though, we've got five books of content that might help us come to a conclusion.

The Hidden Oracle, being the beginning of the story and the beginning of Apollo's character development, is where we would get an inkling of what Apollo wants us to think his fatal flaw is. To us, Apollo appears vain, self-centered, and, frankly annoying. And he does these things on purpose. Or at least, he tells us these things.

That's the thing: if you look past all the fluff Apollo spits out to the audience throughout the first majority of the book, before his children are taken into the forest, you'd find that his dialogue, aka how the other characters of the story hear and see him, doesn't really reflect that. Most of the annoying, self-centered brattiness is only on the page, and not as obvious in his personal interactions (not saying they're not there, but it's so much worse in his internal monologue). So, what does this tell us?

That those aren't his fatal flaws. He's very good at pretending that they are, probably because, as I've read several other metas very cleverly explain, that this is what gods are supposed to be, and, Apollo, in his desperation be his father's golden child again (or, also to avoid his wrath, take that how you will) has built up a very elaborate mask for thousands of years, because that is what he is not. He's trying to be glossed over in the vast sea that is the gods, and it's not really working because, well, he got turned into a mortal. Again.

As we pass through books 2 and 3, we're still not quite past the whole "pretending to be petty and self-serving because this is what I am supposed to be as dictated by the laws of my immortal people and my father". That, almost certainly, doesn't come until the latter half of The Burning Maze. So it's further safe to assume that our best guess as to his fatal flaw probably coincides with his more honest moments with the audience, eg. books 4 and 5.

Now, I know a popular common answer to this whole question is that it's his ego and his pride. But here's the thing: as we move on to the second half of the series, we get an interesting revealing of Apollo's perception of himself. To put it plainly: Apollo is not a narcissist, as much as he pretends to be (see the above points). Honestly, he might actually hate himself and what he's become as he learns to take a more critical view of himself as the series goes on. Drawn in direct antithesis to his moments in the first two books, when he tells us that he assumes that anybody he meets is willing to help him, after the peak of his development (marked by his promise and Jason's subsequent death), this isn't the case. That's why I'm pretty okay with putting pride and ego towards the bottom of my list of possible fatal flaws for him.

Honestly, if I didn't know any better as we reach the end of the series, I'd say Apollo's fatal flaw might fall somewhere closer to poor self-esteem, insecurity and self-doubt, but for some reason, that doesn't quite fit. I'd argue that a lot of those feelings probably stem from being stuck in the inadequate body of a mortal with a tiny fraction of his usual power - of course he's going to feel like that. That, and it's almost the direct opposite of what his flaw is perceived to be by other sources, so it feels like too large a leap to me.

I'm deliberating from my point, which is this: I still have no clue what his fatal flaw is.

It's not:

narcissism

pride

OR on the other side of the spectrum:

low-self esteem

self-doubt

OR the list of things we knocked off earlier:

holding grudges

wrath

ambition

And when you compare to other characters he might also be like, I would argue he's a totally different animal. The only character I could see a similarity with is Percy. But, again, it's just not the same. Percy's flaw, excessive personal loyalty, still doesn't really fit because, while I'd argue that Apollo's never really put in a situation where he's had to choose to save the life a mortal friend over his task of restoring the Oracles, I do believe he has a strong sense of duty. No, I don't think he would sacrifice Meg's life to do that job, but it's not something we see him forced to pick between (that I can think of, at least). I like to think that, on one hand, Percy would flat-out refuse to do his duty to save the life of a friend out of principle, whereas Apollo might find a clever loophole to save the friend, do the duty, and end up doing harm to himself. If anything, while Percy would be ready to burn the world to save a friend, Apollo would be ready to burn himself first.

That, I think, is our biggest indicator. Apollo loves his friends and the world. He wears his heart on his sleeve, this is something the Triumvirate exploits to no end.

Athena tells Percy something in the PJO series (the Titan's Curse, I think?) and says that the most dangerous fatal flaws are the ones that are good in moderation. And, of course, Apollo is a main character, so naturally his fatal flaw will fall under this category.

I think Apollo's fatal flaw is of the same breed as Percy's, but isn't really the same creature. I'm sure there's a more eloquent way to put this, but it seems to me that his fatal flaw has something to do with his tendency to be self-sacrificing, easily forgiving, and empathetic. He's been stabbed in the back several times and every time chooses instead to show trust and camaraderie, to see the best in people, and give them another chance to prove themselves: with Meg, Crest, Lityerses, Luguselwa, Meg's adoptive siblings, and many, many more. That seems very dangerous in the wrong situation, yes? Especially someone in Apollo's position - there are plenty of bad people who would be ready to take advantage of this.

And what is a story if not the hero learning to overcome their fatal flaw? And, really what is the Trials of Apollo all about? How do we end? What choices does Apollo make for the future at the conclusion of the Tower of Nero that directly contradict his overwhelming urge to choose forgiveness and let others try again?

The Tower of Nero, Chapter 36

At the end of any good epic story, the hero learns to overcome their weaknesses and flaws and do the right thing regardless. For Apollo, this comes when he refuses to forgive one person: Zeus. Apollo ends his pentalogy with coming to an understanding of himself and his relationship with his father, learning to overcome that tendency see the best in everyone, and realize that not everyone can choose to change for the better like Apollo has.

EDIT: a masterlist of my other metas

[cassyapper]

are there any holidays/trips u think jotaro n kakyoin would go on together?

hm good q

i have a whole spiel about where i think their honeymoon is when they finally tie that knot but cant risk…hm…spoiling….some things i have planned for a project so i wont go in depth. but i do think it’s a destination honeymoon

as for general trips i do think they go to see the temples and such in thailand. and also the wildlife in iceland particularly the orcas near there cause they have unique hunting and i can see jotaro being into it. they might go to antarctica for jotaro’s research once but kakyoin is absolutely Miserable lmfao. he is determined to stay tho despite jotaro almost begging him to just go home. he always needs to have star platinum out as a sort of emotional support dog for kakyoin LOL. as for the usa i can see them taking a cross country road trip and getting ticketed cause neither of them can drive very well imo. kakyoin of course uses hierophant’s mind control to make the cop forget and not write it but lol. star platinum does most of the driving. they visit niagara falls, yellowstone, the grand canyon, etc. just big us culture stuff. when they reach the pacific they both feel a very strong homesickness so they take a trip to japan not long after and visit holly and josuke and co. of course they both return to india at some point likely with pol and avdol. they take many trips to africa as conferences for kakyoin’s work (i imagine him as an anthropologist with a specialty in northern african cultures for those who dont know). hmmm. yeah they just kinda go all over the place. might visit italy too for obvious reasons also tonio friendship. mm. yeah :)

[spoopup]

professor layton beam GO !

+ a gif of them talking !!! the gif messes up a bit but idk how to fix it and stuff so. bleh

[obsmiechujek]

Happy late birthday Phoenix!!!

[boobgoogler]

oh yeah t4t transfem klapollo was beamed into my head as i was laying there sick this weekend i am a prophet from the gods here you go

[apollosgiftofprophecy]

I'm reading Apollo's wiki right now and can i just say what a GREAT dad he is?

Like he teaches his kids archery, medicine, and about prophecy. Some he mentors into seers.

Some aren't even HIS BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN (hello, Chiron!) and he STILL TEACHES THEM and TREATS THEM LIKE HIS KIDS.

what a great dad